ORLY-EP0126A - Gypsy Cops, Snowden, & Climate Change Finds Ship

ORLY-EP0126A - Gypsy Cops, Snowden, & Climate Change Finds Ship

Welcome to ORLYRADIO #126A recorded Friday September 16th, 2016 - where we dismantle the current events for your edutainment through mostly rational conversations that make you go ‘Oh Really’! I’m your host Andy Cowen, with my usual suspect(s), Daniel Atherton.

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Potpourri: Guests/Rants/Etc:

Quick Bites:

  1. NASA analysis finds August 2016 another record month http://climate.nasa.gov/news/2490/nasa-analysis-finds-august-2016-another-record-month/

  2. New evidence is forcing scientists to reconsider how the Moon was formed http://www.sciencealert.com/new-evidence-is-forcing-scientists-to-reconsider-how-the-moon-was-formed

  3. Employer of Pulse nightclub killer fined $151,400 for false psychological forms http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/fl-orlando-shooting-fine-20160909-story.html

  4. House Intel Panel: Edward Snowden 'Was No Whistleblower' as they published the summary findings of a two-year investigation. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/15/494157921/house-intel-panel-edward-snowden-was-no-whistleblower

  5. Cast-Out Police Officers Are Often Hired in Other Cities - The ‘Gypsy’ Cop Shuffle http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/whereabouts-of-cast-out-police-officers-other-cities-often-hire-them.html

-BREAK- Voicemail

This Week in History:

Sources: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history

  1. Second Vessel From Doomed Franklin Expedition Found In The Arctic http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/12/493676137/second-vessel-from-doomed-franklin-expedition-found-in-the-arctic

  2. American Playwright Passes http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/arts/edward-albee-playwright-of-a-desperate-generation-dies-at-88.html

  3. Anniversary of Vote to Allow Women Ministers in the Episcopal Church http://www.episcopalchurch.org/library/glossary/ordination-women  http://arc.episcopalchurch.org/women/two/chronology.htm  

-BREAK- Logical Fallacy


Changing the Subject: Anonymous Authorities


The authority in question is not named. This is a type of appeal to authority because when an authority is not named it is impossible to confirm that the authority is an expert. However the fallacy is so common it deserves special mention.
A variation on this fallacy is the appeal to rumour. Because the source of a rumour is typically not known, it is not possible to determine whether to believe the rumour. Very often false and harmful rumours are deliberately started in order to discredit an opponent.

A government official said today that the new gun law will be proposed tomorrow.
Experts agree that the best way to prevent nuclear war is to prepare for it.
It is held that there are more than two million needless operations conducted every year.
Rumour has it that the Prime Minister will declare another holiday in October.
Argue that because we don't know the source of the information we have no way to evaluate the reliability of the information.

ORLY-EP0124A - Making Podcasting Great Again Also

ORLY-EP0124A - Making Podcasting Great Again Also

Welcome to ORLYRADIO #124A recorded Friday September 2nd, 2016 - where we dismantle the current events for your edutainment through mostly rational conversations that make you go ‘Oh Really’! I’m your host Andy Cowen, with my usual suspects, Daniel Atherton and Stephen Griffith.

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We make mistakes. Please, if you find one, pause the podcast, and send us a note. orlyradiopodcast@gmail.com or phone it in 470-222-6759

Our friend Bill Hunsicker still needs some help to move. If you have a few dollars to spare, https://www.gofundme.com/HelpBillMove

Some Errata concerning the Epipen nightmare that Mylan has wrought.


Alternative Epipen:

  1. http://www.krem.com/news/health/interest-in-an-alternative-to-the-pricey-epipen-skyrockets/313083741  
  2. http://www.philly.com/philly/health/Theres-a-cheaper-way-to-get-an-epinephrine-pen---but-you-have-to-know-how.html   
  3. http://www.consumerreports.org/drugs/how-to-get-cheaper-epipen-alternative/
  4. http://adrenaclick.com/what_is_adrenaclick_epinephrine_injection_USP_auto_injector.php

Potpourri: Guests/Rants/Etc:

  1. Trump just made Rudy Giuliani wear a “Make Mexico Great Again Also” hat http://www.vox.com/2016/8/31/12741978/trump-giuliani-mexico-great-again-hat

  2. Approval links: http://www.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx

This Week in History:

Sources: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history

  1. 1789 Congress founds U.S. Treasury

  2. 1885 Whites massacre Chinese in Wyoming Territory

  3. 1945 V-J Day Japan surrenders

  4. 1959 Ford introduces the compact, fuel-efficient Falcon

  5. 1969 First ATM opens for business

  6. 1973 Lord of the Rings creator Tolkien dies

  7. 1998 A UN court hands down the first international conviction for genocide

  8. 2001 Cartoon Network Debuted Adult Swim

  9. 2013 Diana Nyad, 64, makes record swim from Cuba to Florida

-BREAK- Logical Fallacy

Sweeping Generalization Fallacy



A sweeping generalization applies a general statement too broadly. If one takes a general rule, and applies it to a case to which, due to the specific features of the case, the rule does not apply, then one commits the sweeping generalization fallacy. This fallacy is the reverse of a hasty generalization, which infers a general rule from a specific case.


(1) Children should be seen and not heard.
(2) Little Wolfgang Amadeus is a child.

(3) Little Wolfgang Amadeus shouldn’t be heard.

No matter what you think of the general principle that children should be seen and not heard, a child prodigy pianist about to perform is worth listening to; the general principle doesn’t apply.

Science Bitches!  

  1. SpaceX went BOOM on Thursday https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/01/here-what-we-know-about-the-spacex-explosion/

  2. FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed From Consumer Soaps "CONSUMERS MAY THINK ANTIBACTERIAL WASHES ARE MORE EFFECTIVE AT PREVENTING THE SPREAD OF GERMS, BUT WE HAVE NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE ANY BETTER THAN PLAIN SOAP AND WATER." http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-orders-antibacterials-removed-consumer-soaps-n642036

  3. This crazy new virus just broke the rules of infection http://www.sciencealert.com/this-crazy-new-virus-just-broke-the-rules-of-infection

  4. UCF Technology for Killing Metastatic Breast Cancer Cells Discovered, Licensed http://today.ucf.edu/ucf-technology-killing-metastatic-breast-cancer-cells-discovered-licensed/

  5. Human footprint surprisingly outpaced by population and economic growth http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-08/wcs-hfs082216.php

ORLY-EP0122A - Communism was just a Red Herring

ORLY-EP0122A - Communism was just a Red Herring

Welcome to ORLYRADIO #122a recorded Friday August 12, 2016 - where we dismantle the current events for your edutainment through mostly rational conversations that make you go ‘Oh Really’! I’m your host Andy Cowen, with my usual suspects, David O’Connor, Fred Sims, Daniel Atherton, and Stephen Griffith

Audience Feedback From Previous Shows:

From The Atheist Amazon, Stacy Reebrul on our Facebook page:
I was just listening to EP 0117A again. Something I learned brought me back to when you were talking about the black man who was found hanging in the park down south. It was said that most people don't commit suicide in public. Now I'm not an expert, but I've recently learned that 1/3 of suicides are committed in public places. Sometimes, suicidal people go to a place where they have happy memories. It may be a way of the person trying to talk themselves out of the act. The other reasons they do it is to let the world know that it let them down and a way to make people remember them. We have dealt with hangings, self-inflicted gunshot wounds, suicide by train, and suicide by cop.
I learned this a couple of months ago when a fellow officer decided to jump off the cliffs of the Palisades Interstate Parkway. His suicide was very public. And he knew it would be. He knew what kind of response he would get from jumping at that particular site. And everyone in the department had to go through critical incident stress debriefing and talk to counselors.
I'm not stating that the man mentioned on your show wasn't murdered. I'm just pointing out the fact that it happens more often than is thought.
Love the show, guys.

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This Week in History:

Sources: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history

  1. August 12, 1990 - On this day in 1990, fossil hunter Susan Hendrickson discovers three huge bones jutting out of a cliff near Faith, South Dakota. They turn out to be part of the largest-ever Tyrannosaurus rex skeleton ever discovered, a 65 million-year-old specimen dubbed Sue, after its discoverer.

    Amazingly, Sue’s skeleton was over 90 percent complete, and the bones were extremely well-preserved. Hendrickson’s employer, the Black Hills Institute of Geological Research, paid $5,000 to the land owner, Maurice Williams, for the right to excavate the dinosaur skeleton, which was cleaned and transported to the company headquarters in Hill City. The institute’s president, Peter Larson, announced plans to build a non-profit museum to display Sue along with other fossils of the Cretaceous period.

    In 1992, a long legal battle began over Sue. The U.S. Attorney’s Office claimed Sue’s bones had been seized from federal land and were therefore government property. It was eventually found that Williams, a part-Native American and member of the Cheyenne River Sioux tribe, had traded his land to the tribe two decades earlier to avoid paying property taxes, and thus his sale of excavation rights to Black Hills had been invalid. In October 1997, Chicago’s Field Museum purchased Sue at public auction at Sotheby’s in New York City for $8.36 million, financed in part by the McDonald’s and Disney corporations.

    Sue’s skeleton went on display at the Field Museum in May 2000. The tremendous T.rex skeleton–13 feet high at the hips and 42 feet long from head to toe–is displayed in one of the museum’s main halls. Another exhibit gives viewers a close-up view of Sue’s five foot-long, 2,000-pound skull with its 58 teeth, some as long as a human forearm.

    Sue’s extraordinarily well-preserved bones have allowed scientists to determine many things about the life of T.rex. They have determined that the carnivorous dinosaur had an incredible sense of smell, as the olfactory bulbs were each bigger than the cerebrum, the thinking part of the brain. In addition, Sue was the first T.rex skeleton to be discovered with a wishbone, a crucial discovery that provided support for scientists’ theory that birds are a type of living dinosaur. One thing that remains unknown is Sue’s actual gender; to determine this, scientists would have to compare many more T.rex skeletons than the 22 that have been found so far.

  2. Separated by 50 years, two Hollywood icons were lost as this day in 1964 Ian Fleming, creator of James Bond, passed away and in 2014 Lauren Bacall passed away.

  3. In the year 30 B.C. Cleopatra took her own life following the defeat of her forces against Octavian, the future first emperor of Rome

  4. In 1953, Less than one year after the United States tested its first hydrogen bomb, the Soviets detonate a 400-kiloton device in Kazakhstan. The explosive power was 30 times that of the U.S. atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, and the mushroom cloud produced by it stretched five miles into the sky. Known as the “Layer Cake,” the bomb was fueled by layers of uranium and lithium deuteride, a hydrogen isotope. The Soviet bomb was smaller and more portable than the American hydrogen bomb, so its development once again upped the ante in the dangerous nuclear arms race between the Cold War superpowers.

-BREAK- Logical Fallacy


Red Herring


The red herring is as much a debate tactic as it is a logical fallacy. It is a fallacy of distraction, and is committed when a listener attempts to divert an arguer from his argument by introducing another topic. This can be one of the most frustrating, and effective, fallacies to observe.

The fallacy gets its name from fox hunting, specifically from the practice of using smoked herrings, which are red, to distract hounds from the scent of their quarry. Just as a hound may be prevented from catching a fox by distracting it with a red herring, so an arguer may be prevented from proving his point by distracting him with a tangential issue.


Many of the fallacies of relevance can take red herring form. An appeal to pity, for example, can be used to distract from the issue at hand:

“You may think that he cheated on the test, but look at the poor little thing! How would he feel if you made him sit it again?”

Science Bitches!  

  1. http://mentalfloss.com/article/84378/scientists-spot-rare-arabian-sand-cat-first-time-2005

  2. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/paralysed-walk-again-project-patient-breakthrough-a7185156.html

  3. http://www.dw.com/en/dangers-lurking-in-the-permafrost/a-19451646

  4. http://mediarelations.cornell.edu/2016/08/04/cornell-scientists-convert-carbon-dioxide-create-electricity/

ORLY-EP0113A - Conspiracy Bias Epistemology & Breakfast of Champions

ORLY-EP0113A - Conspiracy Bias Epistemology & The Breakfast of Champions

Welcome to ORLYRADIO #113A recorded Friday JUNE 10th, 2016 - where we dismantle the current events for your edutainment through mostly rational conversations that make you go ‘Oh Really’! I’m your host Andy Cowen, with my usual suspect, Daniel Atherton.

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Errata: From the mailbag:

Andy, I loved the coverage of the gunshot wound caulk gun. I had an insight that I think it's accurate. The conversation seemed to overlook a key element: clotting factor. See, my nephew has a mild bleeding disorder. He's not of royal lineage or anything, but it takes him about 20% longer than normal for a cut to seal up.

See, his specific condition is a lowered amount of a clotting factor that forms a web or lattice type structure around a wound, which catches the platelets. Once it catches enough to clog the lattice, it is sealed. I imagine this technology would work the same way. So it's not just the sponges swelling to fit the wound. It's also them catching the platelets to make a hemostatic seal.

Typically, this clotting factor will start forming around the edges of a wound, and build upon itself. That's why you want to pinch a wound closed until the bleeding stops, and you have to be so careful about it not reopening. This technology is perfect for large, deep wounds that aren't likely to seal up. It makes me ridiculously happy orlyish.

All the love,

Daniel Bible Pants Duncan

From one of our Patreon Supporters. Did Google manipulate search for Hillary? https://www.facebook.com/SourceFedNews/videos/1199514293432055/

Potpourri: Guests/Rants/Etc:

  1. Confirmation Bias (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases)
       the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.

  2. Herd mentality, or mob mentality, describes how people are influenced by their peers to adopt certain behaviors, follow trends, and/or purchase items. Examples of the herd mentality include stock market trends, superstition and home décor.

  3. Bandwagon effect — the tendency to do (or believe) things because many other people do (or believe) the same. Related to groupthink, crowd psychology, herd behaviour, and manias.

  4. Illusion of control — the tendency for human beings to believe they can control or at least influence outcomes that they clearly cannot.

  5. Reactance — the urge to do the opposite of what someone wants you to do out of a need to resist a perceived attempt to constrain your freedom of choice.

  6. A conspiracy is a secret plan to achieve some goal. Its members are known as conspirators. A conspiracy theory originally meant the theory pre-formed conclusion that an event or phenomenon was the result of conspiracy; however, from the mid-1960s onward, it is often used to denote ridiculous, misconceived, paranoid, unfounded, outlandish or irrational theories. One of the worst things about conspiracy theories is the fact they are almost airtight. Every debunking or piece of evidence against it will be viewed as an attempt to "misinform the public", and the lack of evidence for it is viewed as a government cover-up. Not everyone involved in a conspiracy necessarily knows all the details; in fact, sometimes none do.

This Week in History: 

  1. Canned from Fred

Logical Fallacy


Complex Question Fallacy
The complex question fallacy is committed when a question is asked (a) that rests on a questionable assumption, and (b) to which all answers appear to endorse that assumption.
“Have you stopped beating your wife?”
This is a complex question because it presupposes that you used to beat your wife, a presupposition that either answer to the question appears to endorse.
“Are you going to admit that you’re wrong?”
Answering yes to this question is an admission of guilt. Answering no to the question implies that the accused accepts that he is in the wrong, but will not admit it. No room is left to protest one’s innocence. This is therefore a complex question, and a subtle false dilemma.

Science Bitches!  

  1. http://www.salon.com/2016/06/07/virtually_everything_america_calls_a_breakfast_staple_is_a_corporate_myth_partner/

  2. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a21268/scientists-turn-bacteria-into-living-hard-drives/

  3. http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-confirm-a-second-layer-of-information-hiding-in-dna

  4. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/zika-virus-outbreak/zika-virus-might-also-spread-oral-sex-french-researchers-n585221

  5. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/new-immune-therapy-drug-gives-bladder-cancer-patients-fresh-hope-n585606